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A New Era - Comments
« on: July 08, 2008, 04:52:13 PM »
Comments on the article "A New Era", which can be found here.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2008, 05:29:43 PM »
obligatory rap sucks.
unfortunately you seem to agree :x
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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2008, 05:37:40 PM »
I miss 90's rap. ;_; Those were the good days... but now it's all shit and crap and *insert article here*

Nice Cardinal.  Random but good lol.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2008, 06:03:57 PM »
Well said!

I don't know if any of you heard of this song...but I think "Girl, you stank" clearly shows what has become of rap music today.


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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2008, 06:06:27 PM »
Well said!

I don't know if any of you heard of this song...but I think "Girl, you stank" clearly shows what has become of rap music today.


Is that really a song?
christ lmaoooooooooo
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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2008, 06:11:41 PM »
yes, please go hear it...or look up the lyrics.

It goes something like, "Girl, you stank. Take a bath."
That's the chorus, I think...It repeats itself ten times.

I think it's by the same guy who did Crank Dat.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 08:02:19 PM »
New rap is shit. There's just no getting around it. Even artists that are being revered as rap geniuses make shit music. There's some good rap out there. I've not heard all rap, and I'm sure that there's a lot of rap out there that is quite agreeable even for someone who doesn't have a taste for the genre. The stuff that hits the airwaves and the stuff that gets attention is just awful, though. Lil Wayne releases a generic as hell song like Lollipop and all of a sudden his album sells a million copies in one week? It's disgusting.

Rap in the 90s was respectable. Groups like A Tribe Called Quest made real music back then. However, then, it was more underground, and although it got critical acclaim, it didn't get much attention from the airwaves. However, as is proven time and time again, mainstreaming kills everything and rap was no exception. We're in the era of cheap cash-ins, and since people today are pretty sick and twisted anyway, demeaning women by singing about "bitches and hos" is obviously appealing to the masses.

The reason for the awful lyrics is likely because rappers have run out of ideas. The better rappers that don't get the attention can rap about serious social issues and have good lyrics, but the mainstream rappers aren't nearly intelligent enough to do that, so they settle for rapping about their fabricated "ghetto thug" life (even though most of them likely grew up in at least middle-class families) and their sexual expeditions with "hos". That's all they know how to write about.

Also: Soulja Boy is a joke. Telling myself that is my way of coping with the knowledge of his existence. I just can't imagine him being anything other than a joke act. Is anyone really retarded enough to release the type of... combination of sounds that he releases as a serious professional work?

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 08:04:18 PM »
Lil Wayne releases a generic as hell song like Lollipop and all of a sudden his album sells a million copies in one week? It's disgusting.

Have you heard the rest of the album?
It's straight up fire. Yes, Lollipop is shit, and Got Money is meh (ew tpain), but the rest of the album is realllyyyy good.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2008, 08:12:52 PM »
I'm skeptical. I'm sure that Lollipop and the other song were just blatant attempts to get some material in the airwaves to sell more copies, but still, anyone that would sink low enough to make something as offensive as Lollipop doesn't provoke me to believe that they can make something better.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2008, 08:26:29 PM »
Have you heard the rest of the album?
It's straight up fire. Yes, Lollipop is shit, and Got Money is meh (ew tpain), but the rest of the album is realllyyyy good.

I actually like one song off of his album that my friend got me into, "I'm Me." I don't know if it was because my friend had turned up the volume and had forced me to listen to it in his car, but despite his use of fuck...it's not a bad song.

I like the chorus part of that song, though.
Probably because those are the only lines I know. lol.

 
I'm skeptical. I'm sure that Lollipop and the other song were just blatant attempts to get some material in the airwaves to sell more copies, but still, anyone that would sink low enough to make something as offensive as Lollipop doesn't provoke me to believe that they can make something better.

That doesn't surprise me. Some artists have such great meaningful songs on their albums, and they choose the least one to be their first hit single.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2008, 08:33:30 PM »
I'm skeptical. I'm sure that Lollipop and the other song were just blatant attempts to get some material in the airwaves to sell more copies

Obviously. :x
But it didn't even need that anyway.
His previous album, The Carter II, sold almost 900,000 copies in the first few weeks. And between II and III, he released 3 mixtapes, and appeard in 77 songs, while also releasing The Leak EP, which was composed of 5 songs that got cut from TC3. Along with the pushed back release date, and the leak of the album about a week prior to release, it had enough publicity to garner more than enough purchases.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2008, 08:50:23 PM »
this is why I love the Ben Folds/Nina Gordman/Punk Goes Crunk stuff.  It's such a blatant fuck off to the entire rap industry.
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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2008, 08:55:26 PM »
Straight Out of Compton!? <333333 LMAO.

Most hilarious thing ever, especially coming from someone like her.

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2008, 09:14:33 PM »
Straight Out of Compton!? <333333 LMAO.

Most hilarious thing ever, especially coming from someone like her.
It BARELY tops Ben Folds' "Bitches Ain't Shit"
Barely.
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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2008, 01:06:39 AM »
I've personally just never liked the style.  People have played me "good" rap, and I just don't enjoy it.  I'm just not found of the singing style.  I will note that some of they lyrics are insanely deep and meaningful, I just don't like how they are presented, so to speak.


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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 09:06:27 AM »
The fact is that back in the days when rap was good, it was basically just a form of spoken poetry. The music might have still been reasonably poor in the background, but that didn't matter. The main focus was the lyrics and that was all that truly mattered.
The thing is, rap is now completely different and it seems the lyrics don't mean shit any more. It used to be that every (good) rap song had some sort of message, be it political, comedic or just telling a story through a song. Now the poetry has gone, the meanings have gone, and the only thing that really made rap good has gone. Rap ISN'T music in the conventional sense. Usually it's not the tune that you're listening to. It's not meant to be. The lyrics are what matter and it's the lryics that have died and taken rap with them.

I despise Kanye West for Stronger alone. I don't give a crap about anything else he has done, the fact that such a song was ever made by him and saw the light of day as a commercial record and was successful is a travesty to the entire genre of rap.
Take a look at the lyrics. They make no sense. There's no overall point to the song aside from generally being about sex. The lyrics are not clever. They're not well-written. If he can't write a proper set of lyrics without making up words like "wronger" then he shouldn't be in the industry. He's taken a superb song by Daft Punk and destroyed it.

Rap artists like The Lost Poets, Public Enemy and Grandmaster Flash And The Furious Five were all excellent because their songs had a political message. Even modern artists like Eminem have a lot of good songs which do have some sort of point to them.
But the fact is that most modern rap doesn't have a point. The songs are about sex and money and that's about it. And even when you ignore the fact that they have no point, the lyrics still don't hold any value. And the tune doesn't hold any value because it's either hardly there, is just bass, or is ripped from some other song. No superb vocals or instrumental prowess. There's absolutely nothing possibly there to admire. It's basically trash that anyone off the street could produce. There's no art in it.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 10:13:27 AM »
The fact is that back in the days when rap was good, it was basically just a form of spoken poetry. The music might have still been reasonably poor in the background, but that didn't matter. The main focus was the lyrics and that was all that truly mattered.
Even 90's rap had great music; I forget the song/artist (it's on CD somewhere in the house), but it used Canon in G as the background, but remixed with a guitar/keyboard.  It was fucking amazing.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 10:24:25 AM »
Even 90's rap had great music; I forget the song/artist (it's on CD somewhere in the house), but it used Canon in G as the background, but remixed with a guitar/keyboard.  It was fucking amazing.
It's still not original music though. It's still not music which is created by the artist themselves so can then be attributed to them.

Also, Pachelbel's Canon is in D. Unless you mean some other random classical piece that you're not specifying.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2008, 10:31:10 AM »
It's still not original music though. It's still not music which is created by the artist themselves so can then be attributed to them.

Also, Pachelbel's Canon is in D. Unless you mean some other random classical piece that you're not specifying.
OH I meant D... christ I've played that for 5 years and I said G?  Yikes lol.

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Re: A New Era - Comments
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2008, 04:52:59 PM »
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To me, when it comes to music, I either have to like the instrumentals, or I have to love the lyrics to make up for instrumentals that are lacking. Modern rap... has neither! It always seems to be the same boring beat. And I've noticed every other rap song I hear on the radio has people in the background going "HEYYYYY" and "HOOOOO" alternatively, after every line. :x

And the lyrics... well, that's already been discussed. :x
Heh. There's one rap artist I like. MC Lars. Why? His lyrics are clever and just damn brilliant. Actually, he has a song mocking generic crunk rap (lyrics found here, actual song available on his PureVolume), titled accordingly. Then he just writes about modern technology and internet relationships and other things that are just plain amusing. I don't need incredibly deep, insightful lyrics. Just something that's not utter bullshit.

Edit: lol, MC Lars sells shirts that say "Donnie Dark Makes No Sense" on the back.
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